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SteveX
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Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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Posted: 10/19/07 12:31 
A non-Jamroom experience, but avoid Verio/NTT Europe like the plague.

I have a client who pays for relatively expensive UK business hosting with them, and for 3 weeks the client's site has been inaccessible via ftp and login to the control panel was impossible. Verio support repeatedly stated that nothing had changed with the server config, were we sure the password was correct. After 3 weeks of backwards and forwardsing it turns out that the password had not changed, but the account name, the ip address, the company providing support and even the country the server was in had all been changed without notification.


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dagilli



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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Location: Seattle

Posted: 10/21/07 21:06 
http://www.ixwebhosting.com

I see some comments about this hosting service. Be aware, very aware of them.
I lost my hole site a week ago. Files went AWOL. Some files were damaged. the index.php file had 300 lines missing.

Space is a problem (I'm supposed to have unlimited space). SQL databases seize to function, SPAM welcome pages pop up (can not proove that this is comming from them though)

Customer service, technical support are very unprofessional. And i can keep going.

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Douglas
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Posted: 10/22/07 04:15 

dagilli:
http://www.ixwebhosting.com

I see some comments about this hosting service. Be aware, very aware of them.
I lost my hole site a week ago. Files went AWOL. Some files were damaged. the index.php file had 300 lines missing.

Space is a problem (I'm supposed to have unlimited space). SQL databases seize to function, SPAM welcome pages pop up (can not proove that this is comming from them though)

Customer service, technical support are very unprofessional. And i can keep going.


I'd be weary of any host that offered unlimited space, have you ever heard of a hard drive that had unlimited space? Wink


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dionsis



Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: 10/22/07 04:25 
that would be load balancing across multiple machines

Limits

who needs them


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Douglas
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Posted: 10/22/07 04:27 

dionsis:
that would be load balancing across multiple machines

Limits

who needs them


And wouldn't use a host that uses load balancing, tried that with PowWeb... not a good outcome. Wink

Even with load balancing, you still are never going to get unlimited space. Wink


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dionsis



Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: 10/22/07 04:30 
of course you are

Unlimited space is relative

How much space do you need to run your site?
If i tell you i'll give you 1gb HD is that enough HD space? what about 3GB

Most UNLIMITED plans take into account that most people signing up will not even break the 100mb mark.

its just marketing, nothing more


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Douglas
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Posted: 10/22/07 04:56 
I agree with you there dionsis.

Just don't think hosting companies should market unlimited space when its virtually impossible. Even with load balanced servers, you still don't have unlimited space. Laughing Wink


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dionsis



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Posted: 10/22/07 05:01 
I'll sell you unlimited space for 9.99 a month and i'll throw in a magazine delivered to your door monthly Razz


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Douglas
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Posted: 10/22/07 05:12 

dionsis:
I'll sell you unlimited space for 9.99 a month and i'll throw in a magazine delivered to your door monthly Razz


ROFL... Wink


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SteveX
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Posted: 10/22/07 13:20 
The BBC would save so much license payers money if they would just swallow their pride and use a 9.99 unlimited space and bandwidth shared hosting account. I wonder why they don't?


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djmerlyn
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Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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Posted: 10/22/07 16:31 
What they do to claim "unlimited disk space", is they set up whats called a SAN (storage area network). This "SAN" is a group of hard drives basically... Its some computer in the either that is simply up and running to power hard drives.

Here, these guys tell you how they do it;
http://www.hostdepartment.com/nolimit_webhosting.html
(note, I lost 18 profitable websites because of these guys, I have no faith in there structure. Keep in mind, if there solution was so great, why would they tell everyone including other hosts? Wouldn't you keep it trade secret?)

Then they mount these hard drives to the server as an NFS mount. So, theoretically they can provide "unlimited disk space".

The problem that you run in to, is that everyone is in business to make money... So to keep costs low, they will typically mount about 10TB of these drives to a single server to support the client demand, and a lot of times these NFS mounted drives are compiled together in a linux software RAID 0 configuration (to make all the NFS mounts look like 1 big drive). What happens is that when 1 drive fails, the entire lot goes out with it.

The solution they are providing is cheap at best, and not worthy of any website that is looking to make a dollar. If I thought for one second it was a worthy solution, JBServers.net would be providing it already.

As a general rule, you get what you pay for. If someone said you could own earth for $10 you probably wouldn't believe them. On the internet disk space and bandwidth is like gold. Anyone offering to give you all the gold you want for the price of a mocha is lying to you. It should be easy for everyone to recognize off the bat, but experience is usually what teaches us the lesson.

Never sniff a gift fish, never rely on a car you spent $20 on, never drop the radio in your bathtub while in the tub...

Cheers!


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Brian
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Posted: 10/22/07 16:42 
I've seen this done as well - note that a NFS mounted drive/partition performs much worse then a "real" hard drive.

- Brian


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SteveX
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Posted: 10/22/07 17:00 
Wow! $3.95 a month - now I'm glad I didn't leap on the $9.99 a month unlimited hosting. Maybe I'll approach the BBC with a $6.97/month deal - my profit would cover about 1/6 of the cost of the tv license!

I've never heard of a gift fish before, so I never wondered what one might smell like. Until now - thanks DJ.


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dagilli



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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Location: Seattle

Posted: 10/25/07 13:37 
I wrote an earlier post and commented on ixwebhosting. My lesson(s) learned.
    - If you pick a hosting company, do not pick it for the price and/or unlimited space, bandwidth, free domain names, exaggerated promises. I did.
    - Do NOT look at this site: http://www.top10webhosting.com/ I did
    - If you are thinking of or bought JAMROOM and are searching for a host, ask the JAMROOM developers. I did not.
    - Do not pick IXWEBHOSTING as a hosting service. I did
    - If you plan to or did any of the above, your site will crash, without warning, without explanation and there will be no support. Mine did


I’m using JBERVERS.NET now and no, they are not paying me or giving me a free service or a discount to place this post. JBESRERVERS was recommended (by bigguy if I may) and this is paying off; slowly but surely and hopefully, Big Time soon. A little more expensive money wise, a lot less expensive loosing sleep wise.

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juice



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Posted: 11/18/07 07:51 
Man! This is my very first post and it's not what I wanted to post first.
I have ix/webhosting and I haven't had any problems as of yet. During the Jamroom install I had to contact on a few issues through live chat and they fixed them right away. The version I have is the free version so I can see what it is all about. I plan on upgrading to the full version soon once I can figure out what design I'm going to use through oinkba.

But after stumbling onto this thread I've become shy about taking the plunge just yet.

I'm not knowlegable with all the network stuff that seems to be needed to know about running a site. I would like a no hassles safe server that protects me site even when I don't know what's going on with it.

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