Forum Activity for @claygordon

A few remaining issues in member images galleries

Ning To Jamroom

Brian -

IMO that's not correct.

Whats' going on here, I think, is that you're thinking that "group by gallery" is a global property and it shouldn't be. The behavior should be consistent with clicking on the images link in the top tab. Images are not displayed by galleries there.

On my Profile page I now have two buttons with different names that perform the same action. That's confusing to me. Why do I need two buttons that do the same thing - when each has a different name.

When I click on Gallery (I may rename in the language file to Galleries) I want to see the groupings - in Ning-speak Albums - of images.

When I click on Images I want to see all of my images - no gallery associations. When I click on an image to view it larger it will be displayed in the context of the gallery it belongs to.

All images belong to a gallery. I imported mine so that, by default, each member's images belong to a gallery that is named their member name.

I have group by gallery set to on. I like that default display. However, I do want to be able to see all of the images without having to select a gallery to view all.

Events in Wrong Order

Ning To Jamroom

@Brian -

If you go to my event listing:
http://www.thechocolatelife.info/thechocolatelife/event

Sort order is set to DESC. Which, in this case, is the one farthest in the future, which is not intuitive. But - with over 100 past events, it's the only better option.

So, you are right. The display of events, when past events are shown, needs to be thought of in two parts:

1) Events in the future where the sort order is set to that the event closest to happening is at the top (sort ASC)
2) Events in the past where the sort order is set so that events that "expired most recently" are at the top of the list. I think this is DESC.

In any event, treating the Events list in two part and sorting accordingly (could be user-selectable) makes more sense.

BTW, the past events could be on their own separate page, paginated. They don't have to be incorporated into the display of upcoming.

What happens when removing a member in JR?

Ning To Jamroom

@Brian -

All good. Though it seems like I will need to keep a list around so I can keep track of these. I am already keeping a spreadsheet of where I make changes to templates, CSS, and the like, so adding a sheet to that workbook to keep track is doable. In fact, I am doing that now and adding the options to the top of the page.

Events in Wrong Order

Ning To Jamroom

@Brian -

I had this same issue - the default sort order is ascending rather than descending. It only took about 10 seconds to fix because I knew where to go to fix it ... but I recommend setting the default sort order set to descending as it's the most natural choice - to Ning refugees.

By default, Ning keeps all the old events around and displays them on the Events page. They have to be manually Featured on to the home page. By default, JR shows the top "n" upcoming events on the home page so no featuring is required.

What happens when removing a member in JR?

Ning To Jamroom

In Ning, I had the options to:

a) remove a member and retain content, optionally give a reason for removing member. In this case there was a link which would enable me to "restore" the user account at some future date. The email address was blocked so no new account could be created at that email address.

b) remove a member and delete all content. and optionally give a reason. In this case there was no link to restore the account and the email address was blocked.

b2) I could remove a member using the Spam shortcut. The member account was removed, all content was removed, the reason was set to spam, and the email was blocked.

What are the options in Jamroom?

How are things handled when the account owner wants to (or needs to) be removed and there is more than one profile attached to the account?

What happens when a member decides to leave? In Ning, they are given the option to remove all their content. This has happened to me once and it was the biggest act of vandalism my site has ever seen. Not only was the useful content posted by the user gone but all of the comments contributed by other users gone as well. Obviously I'd like to be able to prevent something like this from happening again and I think there is a compromise position that can be reached.

TIA,
:: Clay
updated by @claygordon: 02/12/15 07:09:30PM

A few remaining issues in member images galleries

Ning To Jamroom

But before I say anything else I have to say thank you to Paul and team for working on this and making huge strides in functionality and usability in such a short period of time. I know that if I had gone to Ning with the same kinds of issues that it would be months, if ever, before anything were done.

With the updates to jrGallery yesterday, I have been able to create new galleries (on the image update form) and move images into them. By selecting "group by gallery" in quota config all of the imported images are in one gallery which has, by default, the member name - and new galleries appear above based on last updated (sort asc).

That said ...

1) One thing I have noticed on the image update form is that the phrase displayed below the image is not visible anywhere on the update form. If it's the image title then the title field in the update form is not being populated. I have been adding titles and am happy to note that both the description of the image and any comments are on the image page. I have replied to at least one of those comments so I am happy to report that that works as expected.

2) There is still the fact that Gallery in the menu ribbon and Images:### in stats go to the same place - so we still have two different words that mean the same thing. What I think the correct behavior to be is that the Images:### link should go to:

http://www.sitename.tld/membername/gallery/membername/all

2a) What's confusing here (and you can see it in the URL above and in the breadcrumb is that my membername appears twice and it's not clear why. The form of the URL that makes more sense (to me, anyway) is:

http://www.sitename.tld/membername/gallery/all

Note that the URL is tidy when looking at one of my new galleries:
http://www.sitename.tld/membername/gallery/faces-of-chocolate/all

3) Search within my gallery

The names of images contain clues on how they were organized on my Ning site. However, I can't search within my gallery. I can search within the collection of all images, but that's comparatively inefficient. So, having a search capability within my gallery - if only on the main gallery page - would be very helpful organizing the images into libraries.

These are some of the mechanics of the new gallery format that should be looked at but - at least for me - they are not deal breakers keeping me from going live. I told my members that there would be some rough edges.

And - I have to say after just trying it out for the first time - the gallery re-arrange image order function in Jamroom is so far superior to Ning's that they are not even in the same universe. I used to dread using the Album function in Ning and made sure that no album contained more than the number of images that could be displayed in the first page (either 16 or 20) as it was impractical to the point of impossibility to move images from one page to another.

:: Clay
updated by @claygordon: 02/14/15 12:23:07PM

Creating Galleries - Catch-22

Ning To Jamroom

Fabulous!

Image Gallery Update - icons now have new meanings and positions?

Ning To Jamroom

I'll get around to resetting the chrome browser cache. In the meantime I checked it out in Safari and it's okay.

Still. Weird. though.

Creating Galleries - Catch-22

Ning To Jamroom

In the Create Gallery form I can only create a gallery if I upload an image.

If I edit an image in my now unified gallery -- there is no way for me to create galleries to move images in to.

I think that creating a new gallery from the image update form seems necessary.
updated by @claygordon: 02/09/15 07:12:20AM

Ningja skin update

Ning To Jamroom

@Brian -

I did that - needed to to get to the Image Galleries update Paul has been working on. The only thing I haven't done is update to the 1.0.12 skin as we have not - yet - resolved what's going on with my cloned skin.