Forum Activity for @brian

brian
@brian
01/19/15 02:31:35PM
10,167 posts

Can I Non Techie Do This?


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:I upped my subscription on Jr this morning. Because yes.

Thank you - your subscription really helps us out.

Thanks!
brian
@brian
01/19/15 02:29:41PM
10,167 posts

comment back (tip)


Installation and Configuration

Add this:

<br><a href="{$jamroom_url}/{$item.profile_url}#cform">Comment Back</a>

Right after this part in your User Comments item_list.tpl file:

{if isset($_conf.jrComment_editor) && $_conf.jrComment_editor == 'on'}
    {$item.comment_text|jrCore_format_string:$item.profile_quota_id}
{else}
    {$item.comment_text|jrCore_format_string:$item.profile_quota_id:null:"html"}
{/if}
.. put it here ...

And adjust it to suit your needs - that should link up to their profile comment form.

Hope this helps!
brian
@brian
01/19/15 02:26:11PM
10,167 posts

New Ning To Jamroom Support Forum


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:However, being from 3.0 they will not have ning archives and may opt to build a new network from scratch. Who knows when or if ever Ning will come up with a 3.0 archive tool.

I find this part to be really confusing - "forcing" your users to stick with your product is rarely ever a good long term business decision. As an outsider totally looking in, my take on this would be (all speculative on my part of course as I really have no idea):

- Ning is not financially very stable. They have a lot of customers and infrastructure costs.
- Most of their "core" developers (i.e. the ones who really know the platform) have left for better paying gigs as the start up bubble has really expanded.
- They've probably "started on" dozens of things internally to try to rectify things, but without the core competency they struggle to get something stable enough to roll out to their entire network
- They've withdrawn from interacting with their customers in order to avoid having to reveal that things aren't going so well

Everything I see there is indicative of a company without solid direction and leadership, but again - I really don't know and it's my "outsider" take on it.

I doubt they will have a Ning 3.0 export tool any time soon - it's not in their financial interest to create it.
brian
@brian
01/19/15 01:14:06PM
10,167 posts

Can I Non Techie Do This?


Installation and Configuration

derrickhand300:I'm not sure- I do subscribe to the priority help for a monthly fee which I think allows me to unlock some features esrly but honestly I am not sure

Yeah Michael has been working directly with you, so you may have access to some things he's specifically done, but ideally any changes make it to the modules pretty quickly.
brian
@brian
01/19/15 01:13:16PM
10,167 posts

Can I Non Techie Do This?


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:I thought SB was still a beta that was not intended for use with Ningja skin yet...?

JR Team....?

Site Builder is beta and is undergoing frequent changes, but the "hooks" for it are in the NingJa skin.
brian
@brian
01/19/15 01:12:06PM
10,167 posts

comment back (tip)


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:Brian- yes my 4000 members are 80% over 60 yrs old. They need lots of stuff spelled out for them. Maybe they shouldn't need it....but they do. And they write to me endlessly when they can't figure it out. Last year I had a guy who told me the chat was broken, it wouldnt post his chat text. Turns out he didn't realize he had to hit "enter" to make his text post to the chat each time after typing. =8-*

I hear you - but bear with me here a moment here while I comment on that. Using that scenario did you contact the chat developer and tell them that they needed to have a help text that said "PRESS ENTER OR YOUR CHAT TEXT WILL NOT BE SEEN" added to the product, or did you write up a small "help" for your users that explained how it worked?

The reason I bring this up is that while we're working hard to make sure most of the things your users are used to on Ning have a similar function in JR, there is also the aspect that Jamroom is NOT Ning, and therefore there is going to be some help and education needed when moving to JR.

One thing that is important to us with JR is to try and stay "low level" enough that the core and modules work well regardless of the type of site or targeted audience, which means hard choices have to be made about what goes IN to a JR module versus what goes in to a JR skin. Adding things to jrNingja (or any skin) is awesome - we want to that to be as close to Ning as we can make it, but modifying a module template is a trickier decision, as we have to consider everyone else who is using that module for something entirely different than a Ning style site. Many, many of the changes we've made due to Ning users feedback have been great, and we've made sure those are integrated as quickly as we can, but on something like this it may end up just being "this is how you modify the template to suit your needs". Hopefully that makes sense.

Thanks!
brian
@brian
01/19/15 01:02:17PM
10,167 posts

comment back (tip)


Installation and Configuration

soaringeagle:comment backs not just a link to the profile but the comment form and i can tell you that without it they will comment on thier own profile instead of on yours

Yeah that's what I am getting at - that your users will not be able to figure that out on their own, which is why you need to have a CLICK HERE TO DO THIS RIGHT.

It's a very, very small change to the comment template to just change the text on the existing URL and add a URL fragment of #cform.
brian
@brian
01/19/15 01:00:21PM
10,167 posts

Changing sign-up form


Installation and Configuration

thechocolatelife:I want to use existing database fields (e.g., country) for this where I can as I want the data from new members to go in the same fields as members from Ning.

I know I have to use the db admin tool to see the structure of the table ... but which table am I looking for?

You want to look in jr_jruser_item_key - that's all the key/value pairs for all users. _item_id = _user_id.
brian
@brian
01/19/15 12:38:36PM
10,167 posts

comment back (tip)


Installation and Configuration

thechocolatelife:OTHERWISE, there's no functional/data difference between Galleries and Blogs.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are getting at, but I don't know if I can agree. The DataStore "backend" that JR uses for everything - blogs, galleries, forum, etc. - is all the same - basically a key/value store. However, the data that each of these contains is going to be very different i.e. a "create gallery" form is really about the images, so let's upload a hundred. A "blog" is about some long-form text. It may or may not have an image. How they are displayed is also going to be different as each has a very different focus.

Regardless though, "comments" on any of these items should appear uniform (in my opinion) - the easiest way to confuse people is to present the same thing to a user in multiple ways. So the site owner can set how they want comments to be be site wide, which I think will lead to the least amount of confusion amongst our users.

This whole thread about "comment back" really is just a URL that links to the commentor's profile. That's already on every comment by default in Jamroom, it just does not say "comment back" - it's linked by their profile URL (i.e. like this: @brian).

I think the the "overarching" theme that I hear from Ning users coming to Jamroom is that THEIR users (not Ning users coming to Jamroom) are easily confused and pretty much everything needs to have a very explicit link that says CLICK HERE TO DO THIS or else it is going to be an issue. From my end I have to just try to "balance" what we actually put in to JR versus what we say "you need to customize this at your template level" as frankly some of the Ning style of doing things is very, very dated to me (but that's just my 2 cents).

Anyway, I likely misunderstood you but maybe that helps.

Thanks!
brian
@brian
01/19/15 12:06:53PM
10,167 posts

Basic Authentication


Installation and Configuration

Natedogg265:If the client key is the username what is the password?

No - the App ID is the username, the client key is the password.
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