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brian
@brian
11/16/14 11:08:46AM
10,169 posts

The "Critically Important" Profile Landing Page


Installation and Configuration

Ken_Rich:like some kind of "glaring omission". It's funny because it is so "painfully obvious" to us, but I've had to work hard to make this point, I even wrote Brian privately. Michael also missed it the first time around.

I certainly wouldn't call it a "glaring omission" - none of our hundreds of non Ning users have ever asked for it - most want the Timeline front and center (as Jamroom can be thought of as a "hyper" Twitter) and by far most of our users have continually asked for simpler profiles and site templates.

For example - as a Ning "outsider" I am blown away by how cluttered most Ning sites appear to me - they remind me of cobbled together perl scripts from 1996. I don't mean that in any negative way, but just use that to illustrate that a lot of people and users have very different tastes, and the features that are specific to Ning users are very "niche" to Ning users.

Thanks!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 11:03:11AM
10,169 posts

Important questions about Ning "Groups"


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:This is the problem I'm having, to think and communicate in such different ways --while having to use the same words yet the words have whole different meanings now. :(

I'm not sure I understand. Outside of profile groups I believe all of the Jamroom "names" (profiles, users, image galleries, audio items, etc.) should line up well with the terminology Ning uses. My concern is that I've called something by one thing and you've misunderstood me, so I just want to be sure you know what we're talking about ;)

Did my explanation above about Profiles clear anything up?

Thanks!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 10:40:50AM
10,169 posts

yikes multiple problems


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:Rather than overlaying semitransparent text onto the photo thumbnails (my members are older and can't see that stuff very well)- maybe just set it so the text hotlink only shows a certain number of characters and after that it gets clipped, or an elipse... but the link is still complete and functional?

Yeah transparent text is not what I would recommend. Is this on the gallery page? The "caption" is already truncated - are you talking about the profile name? It only shows the profile and caption (if set).

Hope this helps!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 10:36:47AM
10,169 posts

TinyMCE paragraph formatting


Using Jamroom

SteveX:Ok, I'll email those. There are quite a few - I hope the purifyer can accept data-* and aria-* attribute wildcards... but I couldn't see how in their docs.

That may not work - HTML Purifier is pretty strict and is not 100% flexible on tag attributes, but we can try.

Quote:I've been trying to add them via a html_purifier_listener, but get an error in the log saying "Cannot set directive after finalization invoked... "

I can see my section and button tags in the array when I call $_data->get('HTML.AllowedElements'), yet they are still being stripped out.

Doing it via listener is actually the best way to do this, and we do this in the iframe support module - I would check that out and see how we did it (as you have to add attributes as well).

Hope this helps!
brian
@brian
11/16/14 10:30:24AM
10,169 posts

Important questions about Ning "Groups"


Installation and Configuration

Strumelia:But the confusion always occurs for me because in Ning, the word 'profile' always refers to an individual member's personal page (their "profile page"). in JR the term profile means something totally different.

I'm not sure what you mean here - a "profile" in Jamroom is a personal page for a (usually) single user. Note that Jamroom simply adds the ability to have MORE than 1 user tied to a profile (think of a band with 5 members in it - each of those users has a USER ACCOUNT (i.e. what stores their password, email, etc. - not visible to the public) but they are all part of ONE profile.

For example, my Profile is here:

https://www.jamroom.net/brian/action

and it is just me.

Hope this helps!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 10:26:02AM
10,169 posts

The "Critically Important" Profile Landing Page


Installation and Configuration

Hey Ken - I just got back from driving to the store and realized I think I have been misunderstanding what you've been asking for - for some reason when you said "landing page" I've been thinking of a "splash page", so forget what I said :)

I think our best bet is to update the profile index page for the NingJa skin so "out of the box" it features items from the profile (instead of the timeline), and at the top we can setup a "profile bio" area, which then allows the profile owner to customize the top portion of the profile index page by creating their own profile bio (which uses the WYSIWYG editor).

I think that would be close to what you're looking for.

Hope this helps!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 09:54:18AM
10,169 posts

The "Critically Important" Profile Landing Page


Installation and Configuration

And just to add, if you are looking to create a profile index page that is made up of content from the profile, we can do that at the SKIN level. There is no need for any modules or module updates to create that.

Thanks!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 09:52:34AM
10,169 posts

The "Critically Important" Profile Landing Page


Installation and Configuration

This is supported right now with the Profile Tweaks module. Your users can modify their profile landing page using the WYSIWYG editor - I don't know how we could make it simpler than that (and by all indications Ning users seem to require and are used to using the WYSIWYG editor).

And just to add perspective, we have not had a request for a "landing page" since probably 2006. It's just not used by sites anymore as they are seen as a distraction from the content that people are looking for - i.e. "I'm going to force you to watch this flash intro before I let you see what you've asked to see".

I'm surprised that Ning users still want this, but of course that is my 2 cents :)

But to re-iterate - this is already supported at this time. We can of course look at different options for a future release, but none of those are going to be available now.

Thanks!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 08:02:52AM
10,169 posts

Important questions about Ning "Groups"


Installation and Configuration

Ken_Rich:Yes, I think you have that right, at least at first glance.

One thing you also might also might want to consider is categories. I don't know if the archive data included it, but Community Forums had categories, so there may be a slim chance they could automatically be sorted into those categories on import.

Yeah - the Jamroom profile forum supports categories, so on import if there are categories for non-group discussions, the importer will automatically setup the categories to match.

Hope this helps!
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11/16/14 07:54:45AM
10,169 posts

Important questions about Ning "Groups"


Installation and Configuration

Thanks Ken - that's kind of what I figured, and I think we have a good setup for this going forward. The updates we need to make are:

- On import, if a discussion is part of a group, add it to that profile's group
- if the discussion is NOT part of a group, add it to the "site level" forum
- Have a setting in the NingJa skin config to define which profile forum is the "site level" forum, and update the skin to include the proper links to it from the front page

Hope this helps!
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