groups, no join or follow, but nonmembers can comment?
Ning To Jamroom
Update- just tested this all again-
Paul, you have FIXED the part where someone could apply to a private group and see the group's content and post to it while they were still 'pending'- YAY! Now they cannot see ANYTHING in the private group until they are approved as members.

HOWEVER-
the other part is still half not working right-
1) Now after the updates it's true that I cannot post to a normal group's DISCUSSIONS...but I can still post on the Group's Comment Wall...I should not be able to do that- it encourages non-group members to simply start 'discussions' on the comment wall instead of joining the group.
I cleared cache, everything. Two days later now- I log in as a regular member, I go to look at a normal Group (not private) and I can see/read both the group Discussions and the Group's Comment Wall entries...all fine so far. I cannot post to the group's discussion threads (good!) BUT...I CAN post comments in the Group's Comment Wall. I should not be able to do that unless I join the group. i just did it. Then I logged back in as admin and the comment was still there...and I deleted it.
Do you want to log into my site to see this? I can email you some regular member credentials. Thanks.
updated by @strumelia: 08/01/15 04:53:53PM