Explaining the Sign up form, a two-way problem, and a possible two-in-one solution
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I should say that rather than having a profile create form separate from a profile settings form, there should be just one form that can be created and updated at anytime.
This is not really a good idea. Most sites do not want to hit a potential signup user with 50 questions at signup time - much better to collect the non-required (or optional) info at a later time. JR's flexibility by having 2 forms is essential.
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Or if the system requires two forms, there should be an easy way to make the settings form fields identical to create form fields (e.g. duplicate all fields en masse)
This is a "set it up one time and works forever" scenario - spending 10 minutes customizing your forms is likely a very small part of your work on your site. We try to optimize for those actions that tend to be ongoing and repeated.
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I certainly do not understand what the relationship between the profile/create form and the profile/settings form is...
you will likely rarely use profile/create - that is for MANUAL creation of a new profile. This is not involved with SIGNUP, which is found at user/signup.
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just as I don't understand the advantage of having profile-form fields for all quotas handled in just one form-designing window, rather than in separate, quota-specific designing windows.
Imagine you have 100+ quotas (as some of our sites do) and you want to make a change to a field only for a subset of quotas. That's easy right now, but would be more confusing and difficult if there were 100+ different form designer forms.
There are no plans to change any of this - most of these functions are central to how JR functions and changing them would be a very large undertaking for no obvious benefit. If you can let us know wherein our documentation we can be more clear so as to help, that's always appreciated.
Thanks!