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Strumelia
@strumelia
11/15/14 08:13:43AM
3,605 posts

my list of things ning migrators will mkiss


Ning To Jamroom

Soaring said: "and although u can access a list of users galleries there must be a link to a all in 1 listing of every photo in every gallery with a featured photos option
additionaly ..if possible a responsive non flash slideshow option on front page and profiles
that can be long rainge plan the slideshows i mean but the menu link to 1 centralized gallery of every photo is a must
if you cant get to it in the next couple weeks i understand and ill try to wotk out my own solution and post how we managed it
but many ning sites will really need this"
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Yes absolutely- very important to be able to click to a general 'member photos' area where one can see a grid and lookthrough/clickto all member photos in one place, not just have a list of members where you need to go to each member's photo page in order to see their photos.
For example here's what one sees when they click on my Ning site's "Member Photos" link at top main navigation bar of my site: http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/photo
(notice it also has it's own search function in photos only, and also has 'sort by' choices.)
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 06:16:37PM
3,605 posts

Upgrading from existing “Ning” Pages and Discussions modules


Ning To Jamroom

Hi,
Once we change to his new Groups modules, and after following the instructions above successfully, are we supposed to delete our original Ning Pages and Ning Discussions modules? Right now under my "Ning Support" area, I see that Ning Discussions is still there in the list of what I have, but Ning Pages seems to be now greyed out and missing its icon. Is this as it should be before I get the new Groups modules update?


Will my normal Ning Forums content remained in my Ning Discussions module for now when I do this groups update? -On my Ning network, about half the discussions are in our site Forums section, and the other half of our discussions are within our various Groups.
I read where you say this:
"- There are no Discussions or Pages OUTSIDE of a group. If you need discussions outside a group you want to use the standard Jamroom “page” module or the “profile forum” module."
--- so is the Profile Forum module what's needed for our big Ning Forums section/feature, which has various sub-categories and is a huge and important area in itself? Or is the existing Ning Discussions module I have in my Ning Bundle supposed to handle the main Forums on our network? (not the forums withing groups.

Thanks for any clarification. :)

P.S. feel free to answer this if you have time tomorrow, no big rush.
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 02:17:54PM
3,605 posts

my list of things ning migrators will mkiss


Ning To Jamroom

brian:
Note that Jamroom has some tools to help you out here - go into your cloned skin -> templates and you can use the "Compare" button to compare your template against the updated NingJa templates and see the differences.

That's so great! :)
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 12:39:38PM
3,605 posts

my list of things ning migrators will mkiss


Ning To Jamroom

Big, big hugs to you!!
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 12:33:44PM
3,605 posts

All New Profile Groups modules


Ning To Jamroom

Oh my, that screenshot looks awesome Brian! So exciting! And thank you for that wonderful reassurances too. Yaaaaaaaayyyyyyy.....
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 12:24:46PM
3,605 posts

my list of things ning migrators will mkiss


Ning To Jamroom

Soaring I am not debating the fact that JR5 is capable of doing everything we want and more. It's obviously capable of that. Nor am I debating that non-coding folks can learn to do things in JR and 'lightbulbs will go on in their heads' at some point- i'm sure that's also true. I am all for the whole 'we can do it together' thing, but that's not really what I'm talking about right now.

I think what Ken and I are trying to express is that if it is not too difficult, the "out of the box" specific NingBundle that JR sells should be made by default to feel and look as familiar as possible to those Ning customers who get it installed and their content imported for the very first time. Ken and I are trying to point out here some small but very important ways the Member Pages can achieve that familiar structure that Ning members are comfortable with and expect. These seemingly fussy little changes would go a long way towards instant curb appeal for people fleeing Ning.
I know the JR Fantastic Four is in fact workin' these goals right NOW. We are continuing to point out some of those things that would yield a lot of bang for the buck if included by default in the specific ning-to-JR modules that are being developed as we speak.

How much those same ning refugees will learn or grow after that initial 'look see' on their newly installed JR test site is up to them. And as has been pointed out, JR may not be for everyone and nobody can expect to be spoon fed forever. But it'd be great to not have them run screaming from the (jam)room their first day after opening a JR site. :)
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 11:12:55AM
3,605 posts

my list of things ning migrators will mkiss


Ning To Jamroom

Ken_Rich:

I think you maybe missed her point on that one. It's glaringly obvious to Ningsters, but Jamsters seem oblivious - go figure - lol.
So take this as a feature request! Basically it's a profile "landing page" issue.

We are used to a landing page that displays a "sample" of all of our content categories on one page. We had "drag & drop" containers, but we could live without those if the layout was good. Jamroom only shows one category at a time, and you have to switch views to see the rest.

Each small representative category can have a show more button, check this page for an example - http://indiegospel.org/profile/KenRich (or see screenshot attached).

Notice blog and discussion titles in small boxes with "show more". Notice 3 video icons, leading to more videos, notice there is a text box where the member can put whatever they wish using a TINYmce style WYSIWYG editor. There is a playlist style music player (with pop-out embed code), a picture slideshow, etc., - all of these on the same page.

To a Ningster, content on Jamroom seems to be indexed and managed well, but it's highly compartmentalized. One has to click 10 tabs in someones profile to see what they have, instead of one representative page.

We would like a profile landing page that does what the home page does, by pulling up representative samples for display, which lead to the full views.

...It's no good to say to "non coders" coming over from Ning that Jamroom supports this, but then expect them to modify the templates themselves. They need something already modified, something that works that way "out of the box".

This is exactly right, and what I was trying to get at.

Especially the last part: "It's no good to say to "non coders" coming over from Ning that Jamroom supports this, but then expect them to modify the templates themselves. They need something already modified, something that works that way "out of the box"."

Let's not forget something very important-
Most people who signed onto Ning did so because Ning does all these things for you out of the box, without expecting you to be able to tweak any codes at all. Yes, there are various things we can tweak and code into Ning 2.0 and even more in 3.0...BUT we don't 'have to' in order to get a good looking functional social network going right away. It's drag and drop and that's what people pay Ning for month after month. SO...keep in mind that if a ning customer knew how to do all the stuff they wouldn't be on Ning to begin with- they'd have been on their own site long ago. Even Soaring who knows a lot about CSS has been floundering around in confusion on here for a while and needing lots of help- so if that's the case with him imagine those of us like Ken and myself.
My only point is that I think a feature like this (showing a sampling of a member's various content on their profile page in ONE place, just like on NIing) should be BUILT INTO the main Ning skin BY DEFAULT- in the primary NingBundle that new ningsters will experience when they first open the goodies.
Yes sure, people can experiment with all kinds of skins and template tweaking later when they get their feet wet...and the wonderful possibilities are endless.
But if it's at all preventable, there must not be a moment of feeling your spirit and heart sink like a stone when the customer first installs, imports, and opens their site for the very first time. This can make or break everything.
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 10:58:00AM
3,605 posts

my list of things ning migrators will mkiss


Ning To Jamroom

I tried the Skysa bar and their video chats (2) for 3 months and my members hated it and abandoned it for the plain old vanilla Ning chatroom again. Many members had tech problems using the skysa chats...they are on older setups.
Ning support is now telling ning customers to use CometChat...seriously...unfreakinbelieveable as they should have developed their PROMISED Ning 3.0 chat feature at least a year ago already.
I suspect that eventually when you contact Ning support they may just reply that you should install Jamroom. lololol!
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/14/14 10:48:35AM
3,605 posts

bug report


Ning To Jamroom

Seems to be working here on this page for me as well.
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
11/13/14 11:45:15AM
3,605 posts

Need for a Search within specific features (& Profiles/member List issues)


Ning To Jamroom

OK thank you for clarifying. Makes sense! I'll be patient. :)
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
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