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Strumelia
@strumelia
08/05/15 10:17:10AM
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Ordering Group discussions by latest active


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1)- No, I don't want that "Join a Group sectionblock to be merely listing group names ordered by their latest activity. I want to keep that list of groups ordered by the number of members they have..i.e. most popular on top.
I want people to be able to see in: the Activity timeline on site's main page, that someone made a new post in the (group) discussion titled :Playing for Posterity and Pie". Preferably naming the member who made a new post there, and preferably with a little excerpt bit from the post.
I swear I had that going before, until just recently! Let me look over some of my old 'site building notes' from months ago- maybe I can find when/where/who helped me achieve it. Or maybe I'm insane and never had it, but geez I don't think im that far gone yet. lol I'll get back to you here. Meanwhile, thanks for fixing up 2) ! :)

updated by @strumelia: 08/05/15 10:17:56AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/05/15 08:57:00AM
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Ordering Group discussions by latest active


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The main issue from the title of this thread is now working just as I has wanted it to- THANK YOU!! This is awesome. :) It's a HUGE improvement for all my members!


The other two issues that have somehow come up now-
will try to explain clearly:
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1) Nowhere on my site's Main page now can one see any new 'posts' in GROUP DISCUSSIONS (NOT in group comment walls, i know 'comment wall comments' are not going to show in the Activity Feed on Main page). I previously did have new Group Discussions and new posts in Group DISCUSSIONS appearing on the Home ftomd.com page Main activity timeline before.
But as it now is, nobody browsing the main page of the site can know there are discussions happening in Groups.
I just logged in as a reg member "The Member" and posted a new post in a Group Discussion about 15 min ago (item number 8833 in the Activity Timeline DataBrowser). The post was in the discussion "Playing for Posterity and Pie". Cleared cache, in the site and in my browser...It is NOT showing up in my site Index page main activity feed. It should have hsowed between DebbyHinz and Sheryl StClair's new Forum posts. Only site/FORUM discussion posts are showing now in the main Activity Feed, not Group Discussion posts. I know I somehow HAD this set up to show Group Discussion posts, previously. Could be Michael or Brian had put in the code at some point several months ago. But it 'seemed' to be working until like a couple days ago.
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2) This other thing, I figured out where we are mixed up with you not seeing it and me seeing it:

"I don't get this. Have just checked your index.tpl and you do have this jrCore_list code for activities -
{jrCore_list module="jrAction" search1="action_module != jrFollower" search2="action_module != jrComment" order_by="_item_id numerical_desc" template="index_activity.tpl" pagebreak=50 page=$_post.p}
which means that no follower or comment activities will show. Have just tested this on your site and that is the case. "

All looks good...UNTIL you scroll down to the end of the first batch in the Activity timeline and click on the NEXT PAGE...where FROM THEN ON you have those two items showing up in the timeline- people 'following' other people, and people greeting new members by commenting on their profile page comment walls. So, the code is only being applied to the initial page of the Activity timeline.

updated by @strumelia: 08/05/15 08:59:57AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/05/15 07:13:52AM
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Profile URL problem


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Also for example users who choose names with underscores_ in them result in their profile not being visible or findable. I just had to hunt down a user like that yesterday and remove their name's underscore so they would 'come back from the dead'. I think months ago Soaring Eagle had an issue with using a peace sign in his user name -as admin.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/04/15 11:39:07AM
3,605 posts

Ordering Group discussions by latest active


Using Jamroom

OK Paul- YES i see now that is working great- didn't realize it would apply to comments GOING FORWARD from now. THANK YOU! this is GREAT!

Some new issues popped up now though- and I'm not sure whether it got changed by the thing you did just now in this here thread, or by the thing you did on my site yesterday, as in the end of this thread:
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/my_posts/31648/groups-no-join-or-follow-but-nonmembers-can-comment#last -where you said "You had a jrGroup_item_detail.tpl overide template in your skin so the changes I made to the module template to fix this were not being effected. I've fixed this up in your skin template. See how it looks now. "

There are two things that now are changed/messed up from their previous 'good' setup I had going before:
Both having to do with what shows up in my site Index/Home Page's main Latest Activity Feed--
1) new responses to Group discussions are suddenly no longer showing up in the Activity feed...only new posts in Forum Discussions, but not from Group discussions. Had that going nicely before, and it's really the ONLY way members can see new Group activities happening when they pop in to scan over the site's Main Page "Latest Activities".
and
2) now have reverted back to showing two things in the Activity Feed that I had coded to NOT show-- you had helped me with a code shown in the end of this thread from February: https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/ning-to-jamroom/24059/refining-whats-shown-in-the-home-page-activity-timeline#last that prevented when members 'follow' someone, and when members leaves comments on each others' profile pages. Now both of those activities are again showing up again in my main page activity feed...so you must have de-activated that code somehow when doing the things in my groups codes over the past 48 hours.

Possible to tweak those things back again to how they were, while keeping your new improvement from today? Thank you so much....


updated by @strumelia: 08/04/15 11:40:08AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/04/15 09:25:12AM
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Hi Paul- nope, something's not right.

First, I have no Group called Hello Again...so I have no idea where you posted your test. Maybe that was a thread by that title within a regular Forum, or within a Group someplace? Cannot find "Hello Again" in any site search. But it's not a group.

I just cleared cache and looked over the top-to bottm listing of dicussions in my Moderators' Group, and they are NOW (after your fix) ordered this way in terms of their latest discussion 'posts' (really comments):
8/3
8/2
7/30
8/3
6/23
8/4
7/31

Now, SOMETHING happened when you just did your module thing-
...because now the "Free Hugs" discussion is no longer at the bottom of that discussion list like it was a few hours ago, like it always was because it was the oldest created discussion. It's now third from top. But for example the discussion called "I'll be Away During..." was posted to 7 hours ago, early this morning...and now it's next to bottom position. Somethings' wacky.

updated by @strumelia: 08/04/15 09:25:40AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/04/15 08:42:30AM
3,605 posts

Ordering Group discussions by latest active


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Sounds perfect- let's do it! This will be awesome if it does what I am hoping!
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/04/15 07:39:48AM
3,605 posts

Oops...batch edit mistake. D'oh!!!


Using Jamroom

Yes, I'm having various complaints about how Groups are functioning, and i realize that not all things can or should be made to work just like they did on Ning. but many things were more logical in Groups on ning, and I know you JR Team created a 'groups' function just for us...for which I am grateful.

"In a Ning group, when anyone posts a message in the group forum, all members of the group are notified about the new message, through email. They don't have to actively log in to monitor the group activity. Unless they turn off that particular messaging option in their privacy settings."
-This is something my members are vocal about missing. They liked being able to 'follow' a whole group to receive notification whenever someone posted a new post in the entire group forum, or when someone created a new group forum discussion. Now they have to specifically 'follow' individual group discussions, and they can totally miss the fact that there are new discussions going on in the group.

As opposed to PJ, I really do need to keep my groups having Comment Walls- otherwise members create superficial 'discussions' for every little silly comment they might have. These comment walls are often used for Group 'idle chitchat', so they get hugely long and i really need to be able to 'clear' them once in a while.

I have another support thread open here right now to try and re-order my Groups' 'forum discussions' so that recent comments will bring a group discussion up to top again...this has been another related problem in groups, and I'm tryng to get a fix for that right now.

Another issue is that because the discussions in Groups are not 'really' discussions, as Gary pointed out...but are rather a post with subsequent 'comments'... this means nobody has the ability to QUOTE from a previous response in order to respond appropriately to some particular point without having to 'explain' what point they are responding to. This is also something members are complaining about every week.

I have no tnymce text editor Quote --or-- COPY/PASTE right-click function, and the 'discussion' replies are really comments so they do not have a 'quote' button either. People are raging that we see copy/past options in the tnymce right clicks, but then get told over and over that we cannot USE the options and must instead use keyboard copy/paste if we want to 'quote' anything. Plus even after we've keyboard copy/pasted a passage from the previous comment... then we can only indent, not really create quotes saying who wrote it.
I do keep explaining over and over to members WHY we can't do these various things, but they really are understandably annoyed and frustrated. Thus, I'm trying to tackle one of these little Group problems at a time here in the JR support forums. THIS thread is about my being able to CLEAR the comment walls occasionally. My other current thread is about ordering the groups' discussions to reflect most recent activity...because members cannot 'follow' a whole Group and are thus missing out on new discussions entirely and are no longer notified on older discussions from ning that they 'used to' get notified about. I will be opening new threads later about the Quote and Copy/Paste issues in Group discussions and comments.

Ok, hope that makes a few things more clear as to where I'm going with all this. :)

Paul, will wait to see if you are able to somehow get us the ability to more efficiently clear out a group's comment wall without altering anything else in the group... thanks for looking into it!

P.S. still trying to figure out the actual PURPOSE of the Batch Edit page I was in when I accidentally deleted that entire 6 year old group...in my my screenshot. What would one do in that "group comment count" batch edit page ...if not delete group comments?? Easy enough to just delete a whole group from the Group page itself...I figured the 'delete' checkboxes in the page i was on was SURELY for deleting the comments listed to the left of each of the delete boxes...like, HUH??
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/04/15 07:06:05AM
3,605 posts

Ordering Group discussions by latest active


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Paul, just to be very clear- I DON'T want to order GROUPS by latest activity. I want to order the individual group's DISCUSSIONS ordered that way, when one is looking within the group itself. -> I have my /Group Index Page and my Groups 'block-module' on my main page so that my site groups are ordered by the number of members they have- most members at top, fewest members at bottom- and I want to keep it that way.

BUT- WITHIN each individual group, --on that Group's own main page-- where one sees the block of 'group discussions' and the expanded group_discuss pages via the 'view all' link for that group's discussion list...well that's where I want those discussions to be ordered so that any group discussion that has a new 'comment' will be brought to the top again, so group members have a way of seeing the latest group postings better.
See attached file showing exactly where/what i mean...within one of my groups as an example. thanks
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Strumelia
@strumelia
08/04/15 06:45:05AM
3,605 posts

Advertisement Placement?


Design and Skin Customization

Zach, maybe not so 'perfect'. I had my FF browser completely TAKEN OVER last night by a phishing/scam/ad when i went to look at your site for the first time and clicked around looking. I was not on any other sites at the time aside from my own and googlenews. It was a real NASTY experience and I lost an hour of my workday going through precautions and malware scans afterwards to make sure my computer was clean. UGH. --If-- that's the paying 'ad' you put on then I suggest you remove it immediately. If you want me to describe the experience in full gory detail, just ask.


updated by @strumelia: 08/04/15 08:51:37AM
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/03/15 07:53:36PM
3,605 posts

Ordering Group discussions by latest active


Using Jamroom

When i am on a Group's home page, the group's Discussions are always listed in order of when they were first created, with the newest on top.
I really need this to change, since some discussions stay active while others become no longer relevant. Group members want to be able to see which discussions have been recently active, and not have those active discussions sink to the bottom despite people posting on them every day. Of course a new discussion would start out at the top anyway. This change would also make it easy to find long inactive discussions that might be candidates for deletion now and then.

I'm suspecting I can change this easily in the Group Support module templates somewhere? Like changing the "order_by" in some template location to 'latest' instead of 'created' or something?
Any help on this?- so many of my members would be thrilled by this change. Thank you
updated by @strumelia: 09/08/15 07:31:58PM
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