CKEditor
Using Jamroom
A lot of sites I use have CKEditor. Was there a reason why JR isn't using CKEditor or similar product? I see editors everywhere, mainly just curious why JR doesn't include one.
Thanks!
updated by @jimmy: 05/05/15 06:02:00AM
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Microsoft News
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Never thought I'd see a headline like this: "Windows 10 will be free for software pirates"
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8241023/windows-10-free-for-software-pirates
I'm so glad I saw this headline: "Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand"
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/17/8230631/microsoft-is-killing-off-the-internet-explorer-brand
updated by @jimmy: 04/20/15 11:48:47AM
Today is CVS awareness day
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I never heard of CVS, until today. I hope your daughter is doing well.
Ad System
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michael:Could you draw us some pictures as to how you think it should work? I find design to be the hardest part of building a module.
Building this module:
* make decisions about how the module should work
* design the interface
* build the code
* release the module
* be told it doesn't work properly
* go back to step 1 and start again.
First thoughts are:
* Network like google's adsense/adwords so that users can turn on the module and tap into an already existing network of adverts.
* OR single site advert system where members of the system can purchase adverts freely and upload their own so admin doesn't have to do anything
* OR a way for admin to put some rotating banners on their site and track the clicks.
--edit--
as for what's more important than a way to monetize getting rid of the visitors to your site, I would say finding ways to keep the customers ON your site is more important.
Building this module:
* make decisions about how the module should work
* design the interface
* build the code
* release the module
* be told it doesn't work properly
* go back to step 1 and start again.
First thoughts are:
* Network like google's adsense/adwords so that users can turn on the module and tap into an already existing network of adverts.
* OR single site advert system where members of the system can purchase adverts freely and upload their own so admin doesn't have to do anything
* OR a way for admin to put some rotating banners on their site and track the clicks.
--edit--
as for what's more important than a way to monetize getting rid of the visitors to your site, I would say finding ways to keep the customers ON your site is more important.
Let me know if the JR team is considering creating a JR Ad system or not. If the JR team isn't planning on developing a module (that's up to you guys), I'm going to develop one for my sites that I can use. I don't want to start working on something if you guys are thinking about release one.
Ad System
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This is how the ad module is designed on another site I use and it works quite well. Just some stuff off the top of my head now.
Firstly, establishment of the advert types:
Advert Types
Advert types allow the admin to add different advert types and set the max characters for that type. Advert types will be used in the "Ads" area (bottom of this post). Advert types restrict what can be placed in that advert type.
Link
Graphic Image
Flash
Javascript
Plain Text
PHP
There are three primary areas.
Sections
A section is where the ad is placed. Each section has a code which is used in the template. It includes items like:
Section Enabled or Disabled (on/off)
Rotating (yes/no): If enabled adverts will be displaying in random order and appearance.
Max Items (NUM): how many ads are going to show in the section. Meaning - one banner, banners side by side, etc. Not how many ads are in the section but rather how many ads are showing at once.
Permissions: Who's going to see this advert?
Templates
Templates are used by the sections and include any design code that will be used, but not the ad code. Having templates to choose from depending on where in the site the ad will be placed.
Template Name
Description
Sections (dropdown) Set sections to this template.
Template content - Includes html code for the template with %content% representing the ad code.
Ads
These will be the actual ads that run on the site.
>Main Settings
Advert is Enabled? (yes/no)
Advert Name
Advert Public Title - Enter public advert name or if you select link advert type, this will anchor for this advert.
Advert Link (optional) - to be used if using the Graphic or Link advert type.
>Type & Section Settings
Advert Type (dropdown)
Advert Section (dropdown)
>Views Settings
Max. Views (num) - Set max number of views for this ad.
Views (num) - Option to set the number of views starting.
>Clicks Settings
Max. Clicks (num) - Set max number of clicks for this ad.
Current Clicks (num) - Option to set the number of clicks starting.
>Date Settings
Enable Date Start? (yes/no)
Date Start - y.m.d.h.m.s
Enable Date End? (yes/no)
Date End - y.m.d.h.m.s
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For the example below lets say I want to place a ad below a video on the site. I wanted it to be a mix of Google ads and an ad I sold to Coke.
First I would create a section which I would call "Ad below Video on X page". I would set the max number of items to 1 - I only want 1 ad showing up at a time. I would select "Yes" to rotate because I would want the ads to rotate.
Then I would create one or two "Templates". Lets first look at creating one template for both adverts, lets say I only need a center tag for both ads. If that's the case then one template would work fine. But lets say I wanted to add wording under the Coke ad that says "sugar is bad" but I didn't want to use that under the google ad. In this case, I would use two templates - one for each ad. The section for both ads would be "Ad below Video on X page".
Then I would create the ads for each. One would be Javascript type - Google Ads. One would be graphic Type where I would upload a banner and add a link under the "Main Settings" in the advert.
updated by @jimmy: 03/17/15 01:30:04PM
Ad System
Suggestions
Sure, give me a little bit.
Keeping customers on the site, that's simple, content and design. I view content and design (template and flow) as the owners responsibility not JR's responsibility. I think JR pretty much has all the tools necessary.
How to you acquire content?
1. Hoping people love you so much that they're going to post content on your site and not use the 2 million other sites out there which have millions of members, celeb endorsements, and funding.
2. Paying people to add content in the form of writing articles and adding content - staff positions.
3. Allowing people to become "partners" in the project. Allowing them to control ads in their profile and monetize the content they add. One of the reasons YT video ads are so important to YT content creators.
Ad System
Suggestions
gary.moncrieff:I would be against the idea of the team doing an ad module at the moment there are much more important things to do first.
If your using the Ningja skin I don't believe it has even been designed with any ad blocks though it, where as MediaPro etc where.
At the basic level you skin must have placeholders as to where you want the ads to display.
If your using the Ningja skin I don't believe it has even been designed with any ad blocks though it, where as MediaPro etc where.
At the basic level you skin must have placeholders as to where you want the ads to display.
I wouldn't expect the JR team to pre-determine where ads should be displayed. Sure, they would probably put some examples in there for reference, but with as many pages as a JR site can have it would be better for the site owner to decide where the ads should be placed. The code for the ad would be simple, just put this piece of code in your template where you want the ad to appear.
Not saying that there aren't other things which are more important, I honestly don't know. What do you think is more important?
Ads are important on any site which wants to make money IMO. Google doesn't make 95% of their profit from ads because ads aren't important. I often say this: the last time I paid for a site membership or purchased something on a non top 1000 site... I can't remember. Last time I saw an ad... today. Each time I see an ad, someone is making money.
The Big Reverse of the Web
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@brian - I'm of the same thinking as you. But I think the younger generation is more willing to give up their privacy for convenience. There is a whole swath of people - younger and older / not technical / trusting - who just go with the flow, clicking buttons without questioning what clicking the button means... kinda how I sign long forms from the bank.
The post is very optimistic, but realistic. Big companies what exactly what he's saying... feeding information to the masses while data mining the masses.
@derrickhand300 - bingo. Dead on.
updated by @jimmy: 03/13/15 12:54:36PM
The Big Reverse of the Web
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The Big Reverse of the Web
By Dries Buytaert
I believe that for the web to reach its full potential, it will go through a massive re-architecture and re-platforming in the next decade. The current web is "pull-based", meaning we visit websites or download mobile applications. The future of the web is "push-based", meaning the web will be coming to us. In the next 10 years, we will witness a transformation from a pull-based web to a push-based web. When this "Big Reverse" is complete, the web will disappear into the background much like our electricity or water supply. We'll forget what 'www' stood for (which was kind of dumb to begin with). These are bold statements, I understand, but let me explain you why.
In the future, content, products and services will find you, rather than you having to find them. Puma will let us know to replace our shoes and Marriott will automatically present you room options if you missed your connecting flight. Instead of visiting a website, we will proactively be notified of what is relevant and asked to take action. The dominant function of the web is to let us know what is happening or what is relevant, rather than us having to find out.
Facebook and Flipboard are early examples of what such push-based experience looks like. Facebook "pushes" a stream of personalized information designed to tell you what is happening with your friends and family; you no longer have "pull" them and ask how they are doing. Flipboard changes how we consume content by aggregating the best of the web and filtering it based on our interests; it "pushes" the relevant and interesting content to you rather than you having to "pull" the news from multiple sources. Also consider the rise of notification-centric experiences; your smartphone's notification center provides you with a stream of relevant information that is pushed to you. More recently, these notifications have become interactive; you can check in for a flight without having to open your travel app. You can buy a product without having to visit their website.
What people really want is to tune into information rather than having to work to get information. It saves them time and effort and in the long run, an improved user experience always wins. In most cases, "Show me what I want" is more useful than "Let me search around and see what I can find".
With some imagination, it's not too hard to picture how these kind of experiences could expand to other areas of the web. The way the e-commerce works today is really no different than having to visit a lot of separate physical stores or wading through hundreds of products in a department store. We shouldn't have to work so hard to find what we want. In a push-based world, we would sit back as if we were watching a fashion show -- the clothing presented could come for hundreds of different online brands but the stream is "personalized" to our needs, budget, sizes and style preferences. When the Big Reverse is complete, it will be the end of department stores and malls. Keep an eye on personalized clothing services like Trunk Club or Stitch Fix.
Ten years from now we're going to look back and recognize that search-based content discovery was broken. Today the burden is put on the user to find relevant content either via directly typing in a URL or by crafting complex search queries. While pull-based experiences might not go away; push-based experiences will dominate as they will prove to be much more efficient.
Many of you won't like it (at first), but push will win over pull. Healthcare is going through a similar transformation from pull to push; instead of going to a doctor, we'll have web-enabled hardware and software that is able to self-diagnose. Wearables like activity trackers are just the start of decades of innovation and opportunity in healthcare. Helped by the web, education is also moving from pull to push. Why go to a classroom when personalized training can come to you?
We are at the beginning of a transition bridging two distinctly different types of economies. First, a "push economy" that tries to anticipate consumer demand, creates standardized or generic products in large amounts, and "pushes" them into the market via global distribution channels and marketing. Now, a "pull economy" that—rather than creating standardized products—will create highly customized products and services produced on-demand and delivered to consumers through one-on-one relationships and truly personal experiences.
This new paradigm could be a very dramatic shift that disrupts many existing business models; advertising, search engines, app stores, online and offline retailers, and much more. For middlemen like online retailers or search engines, the push-based means they risk being disintermediated as the distribution chain becomes less useful. It marks a powerful transformation that dematerializes and de-monetizes much of the current web. While this might complicate the lives of many organizations, it will undoubtedly simplify and better the lives of consumers everywhere.
http://buytaert.net/the-big-reverse-of-the-web
updated by @jimmy: 04/13/15 02:02:45AM
Ad System
Suggestions
brian:
We had one in JR4, but very few people actually want to do this on their own - 99% of our users go with an existing ad system that handles all this for them, so there's not been much demand.
jimmyk:I'm kind of surprised JR doesn't have one created. All my other sites (non-JR) I sell ads direct to advertisers.
We had one in JR4, but very few people actually want to do this on their own - 99% of our users go with an existing ad system that handles all this for them, so there's not been much demand.
I can say for myself that I would love to have one. I know on a couple of my sites that aren't ranked very high, I could use an alt system like Google. But since I'd only make a few cents a day I don't even bother. My sites which have a large amount of traffic, advertisers would rather place their own ads and pay me directly - this is nice because I don't have to give a chunk to a third party.
Once people start using the profile domains and get users to establish a "homebase" on a JR site the users might want some type of revenue generator for their page. Having an ad system might provide them with an ability to sell ads or insert code from a third party provider.
Obviously, you need to set priorities for what you build for JR as far as modules are concerned. I guess for most people setting up Google Ads is fine when a majority of their income isn't coming from ads on the site. For me and my sites, ads have been pure profit.
I use a forum software for 2 of my other sites, I won't mention the software maker but it begins with an "I". The current version doesn't have an ad system, it's a separate add-on from a third party developer. Ads were requested so much that they integrated it into the core of the system. I can't make any guesses to who uses JR (size of site and global rankings), but I know there are a lot of top ranked sites using the forum software mentioned above and an ad system was a top request.
updated by @jimmy: 03/10/15 02:21:49PM
