Main Site Navigation Question

How do I remove items from the main site navigation in the site header WITHOUT losing the pages?
I have created pages here using the MENU icon in Site Builder ( mainly because its the only way I can find to create pages that allow me access to [*code*] in the editor- if I use page creator I do not have this access in the editor- I suppose the reason for this is if you are allowing members to create pages ( I dont) then you do not want them to have this much access...

Anyways making the pages in the Menu works great- until you want to remove them from the menu navigation- then for some reason the page is still visible to me BUT not to anyone else - they get a "page Not Found" error...maybe this is a quota setting somewhere? ( these quotas are really kicking my butt)
updated by @derrickhand300: 12/22/16 11:55:59AM

Got an example. You should be able to add a page just by going to the URL. BUT only items in the menu are backed up in the export.

So its expected that pages will be in the menu somewhere.

The other option is to add a class to each of the menu items then use CSS to hide that so its not visible.

yes i just made a page called nzmichael

http://drillingahead.com/nzmichael

Then I removed the link from the navigation

Pls use the link and see if you can view the page

ok now login using my admin detals and click the link...