completed Will Jamroom work on Cloud based host and SSL Certificate

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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
Hello Jamroom team!
I have three music websites that are currently running on a dedicated server with 250GB Sata HD and 6DDR2 RAM(see attached image). Lately with the last updates, Jamroom starting to run very slow and any videos larger than 14MB takes days to convert or does not convert at all. For example I have a video that is being converting for more than 5 days. In the Queue Viewer “Queue Latency” I only see “2,282 s” and the number keeps increasing. When I click on details I see this message(see video1 image)

So here is my plan:
1) Convert the three websites to SSL
2) Purchase a stronger dedicated server “Intel Xeon E3-1220(3.10 ghz, 4 cores, 4 Threads) 8GB DDR3 RAM and 256GB SSD SATA 6GB/s HD, CentOS 7.x + cPanel.
Questions: Will these be sufficient to run 3 jamroon music based websites? Right now the amount being used in the dedicated server HD is about 100GB for the three websites.

Option 2:
3) Move the hosting to the cloud based server and covert to SSL.
This is the available cloud based Option close to the dedicated server pricewise: Storage 160GB, vCPUs/GHZ: 8/7.2 GHZ, RAM: 8192MB, Bandwith: 5000BG, CentosOS 7.x
The difference on this service is that I don’t have to worry with databackup. If more resources are needed I can easily increase with a click of a button.
Concerns:
Security issues, and I have never used cloud based servers.

Question: Will this cloud based hosting package be strong enough to run the three Jamroom websites?
Does Jamroom work perfectly fine on cloud based with SSL hosting?

Which option would you recommend dedicated server or cloud based server?

Please provide your honest feedback since I’m kind undecided at the moment, but I really need to make a quick decision since I’m worried that my current server might go down. Lately it has being going down at least once a month and the HW is kind of outdated.

Thank You Very much
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updated by @luis456: 06/04/17 01:12:41AM
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
Yeah for most purposes, an old spinning disk SATA hard drive is just not going to perform well - mainly due to the DB having to create temp tables, which on a old hard drive is going to be over 100 times slower than an SSD.

Your "new" server should be able to run 3 JR sites no problem - being SSD you'll see a nice performance boost.

Before you do that though (and I don't want to sound like a sales call) have you thought about JR hosting? Do you have sysadmin skills to manage your own hardware from a security stand point? If not you might consider hosting with us:

1) No worries about maintaining anything except your JR sites.
2) Free SSL certificates that auto-renew - no hassle
3) full backup system
4) VIP ticket support

I really should toot our own horn about this MORE, but honestly - it's a great deal.

If however you must host your own server for specific reasons, the "new" server you have outlined sounds like a nice upgrade from your current server and should be good.

Also - for that queue entry that is taking that long - it's failed several hundred times, so it's not going to complete - just delete it.

Let me know if that helps or you need any more feedback or have any questions.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
Thank You for the update Brian!
How about cloud base? do you think it might be good to move to cloud base with this configuration?
cloud based Option close to the dedicated server pricewise:
Storage 160GB, vCPUs/GHZ: 8/7.2 GHZ, RAM: 8192MB, Bandwith: 5000BG, CentosOS 7.x
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
Who's the provider for the "cloud base" option? I don't like vCPU's - they tend to me much, much slower than a CPU that has been dedicated to a VM.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,692 posts
I think it goes under the radar a bit, but worth mentioning is that with a Jamroom Hosting server you also get connected to a separate conversion server. So the server that you have's only job is to serve up your site to visitors. All the conversion of the media is processed by our other independent media conversion servers.
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
brian:
Who's the provider for the "cloud base" option?
Hostforweb.com I've being with them for a while since they provide managed hosting.

brian: I don't like vCPU's - they tend to me much, much slower than a CPU that has been dedicated to a VM.

I did not know this:
I'll stay with the dedicated server then

FYI
I was planing to move to Jamroom hosting, but the cost to host the three sites with the package that I was looking for surpassed my budget more than expected. On top of that, I had already purchase the premium licenses a while ago.
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
Luis456:
I was planing to move to Jamroom hosting, but the cost to host the three sites with the package that I was looking for surpassed my budget more than expected. On top of that, I had already purchase the premium licenses a while ago.

What size of Jamroom hosting plan were you looking to go with?

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
I was thinking on 24G or 48G for each Domain.
but:
@ 24G
3 X 49 = $ 147
or
@ 48G
3 X 69 = 207

Or maybe I'm confused?
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
You don't need a different server for each domain - you can run as many domains on your server as you want - you're only limited by the disk space. I have like 15 domains running on my dev server.

So what it comes down to is how much space are your 3 sites using combined?


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
All three combined are close to 90GBs
Thanks
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
the 96G plan would work for now - you may find you have some space that could be cleared up on your current sites:

https://www.jamroom.net/hosting

Upgrading at a later point to the 192G hosting plan if needed.

That would be $89 a month and you'd get a really high performing setup.

Let me know if that helps.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
7 years ago
3,602 posts
It's a great thing that we can put as many JR sites as we want on a JR hosted server. I too at first assumed incorrectly that the arrangement is one site per server.
Luis, I have two JR sites on my jr hosted server, and at one time when I was cloning a site, I temporarily had a little too much content for my server size. I temporarily increased my JR server size to a larger server with the simple click of a button in my server control dashboard on Jamroom. It took about two minutes to effect the change. Then later that day i cleared out the extra content I didn't need, and was able to just click it back to my previous smaller server size by that evening. The JR billing system then billed me only for 1 day at the larger server rate (pro-rated)... so the entire procedure was very inexpensive ...it wound up only costing me a few dollars to use the larger server for one day.
I only tell you this because I was so pleased with how easy, fast, and inexpensive it is to work with my JR servers and the interface they provide. Meanwhile, the JR Team manages and monitors the server for me and makes sure it's always running up to speed with no downtime. I've been 100% pleased with being on JR hosting for over a year now.


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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
Thank You all for the feedback and think with all the Pros moving to Jamroom is definitely a good think to do.
I just have one last questions, because it is critical for me.

The domain based emails accounts hosting( for example.. Luis@domainName.com, info@domainname.com). How is this manage or monitored on Jamroom hosting?
Normally with the dedicated or share hosting there is a control cpanel that allows the administrator create, remove, edit, monitor email address based on domains names.
For example I have email address for supports and music submissions for live streaming and are sent to the email website emails addres.
Does Jamroom hosting to have the same functionality for emails administration as the cPanel software?


Thank you
paul
@paul
7 years ago
4,325 posts
Jamroom Hosted uses MailGun for email delivery. You can setup email aliases etc. on the JR Hosting Control Panel.
See these docs. -

https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/jamroom-hosting/2537/setting-up-mailgun-for-email-delivery
and
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/jamroom-hosting/2654/creating-email-aliases

Hope that helps


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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
Thanks for the update Paul. Now I'm optimist and positive on making my decision and defensively I'll be moving to jarmroom hosting.

I noticed that the licenses for all jamroom modules and skins are included with the hosting service package as long as your active correct?.

However; I have tree licenses that I paid of good amount of money for it.

Are these three licenses still valid once I move to your hosting?
What do I need to preserve my current licenses before moving to your hosting?
If for any reason I decide not to continue with Jamroom hosting and move to an other hosting can I
continue to use my old license on a different hosting company?
Will I be able to sell this license If I want to?

Thank You
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
As long as you are on Jamroom Hosted you don't have to worry about licensing. If you decide to go back to your own hosting, then your current premium license comes back into play.

Let me know if that helps.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
Thank You for the clarification Brian. Now what is next.
Once I purchase the package, would you guys help me migrate all the staff from my dedicated server to your server? or is there an extra fee for it.
What information is needed to accomplish this.
Honestly this is the first time that I'm switching host servers and I'm totally new at it.

The idea will be to cancel my other service a the end of this month and beging with you guys at the beginning of next month, but I don't know how to work on between.

Thank You
updated by @luis456: 02/09/17 01:19:49PM
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,136 posts
Transferring is actually really easy - we can do it for you. So the next step is to spin up your server here:

https://www.jamroom.net/luis456/hosting/create

Make sure and select the plan that will be able to hold all your current sites data + a little breathing room (see the email I sent you about sizing). You'll need to enter a domain at create time, so just pick one of the sites you want to transfer over, and we can move that one first for you.

Once the server is online, which only takes a few minutes, and the new secondary domain is resolving (about an hour usually) we can start the transfer.

We do have documentation on using the hosting:

https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/jamroom-hosting/2543/welcome-to-jamroom-hosting

If you're curious about the different functionality and how to use it.

Let me know if that helps.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
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Luis456
@luis456
7 years ago
48 posts
Thank You all for feedback provided. For now I'm planing to stay with the current Webb hosting provider. They did not want me to leave so I was able to get a good deal on the new server. Also I have a couple of wordpress websites hosting on in and I had invested some good amount of money on customization.
Definetely.. Jamroon hosting is going to be my next choice in a near feature.
Once again .. thank You

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